I recently used my at4040 on a nylon stringed guitar, and through it turned out really great, though i have not used any of the other mics you mentioned! I will try to record my classic guitar in a couple of days when I have put on new strings. A true Neumann at an affordable price. Personally, between the 84 and 184, I definitely prefer the 84 for my useages. Hard to find though. I was in the same position , flerting with Peluso cemc6 ... but ended up buying an used pair of km184 .... just got my km184 and am very happy with it. Big sound in a small package. +1 on the Shure KSM137. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. not a favourite mic of mine . To buttress my previous post: I don't harbor hatred for the KM-184, and I do think it gets a bum rap on this forum. Hello, I would like to buy a good mike for to record my nylon-flamenco-spanish guitar heh Well, I have a decent valve preamp (avalon 737) and converter (UA2192) and I would produce a sweet ambient music. Peluso cemc6...a great deal at the price and a pair will only set you back a little under $600. Pictures Of Mic'ed Up Drum Kits In The Studio. The MC 930 is not bright, but brilliant (i.e. I have to agree with the nod to the Beyer MC930. Do you really think you could buy 2 separate km84s and they would be as closely matched as something new?? When you have two NT55's put them in card. They are so good and so cheap so I say buy one or two and use them for a while and then compare them to other mics. Of the mics just mentioned, you could make a good case for either the KM184 or MC930 but if budget comes into play, there's no need to anguish yourself further. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. capsules with it. lift is higher up; not in the "punch" range but in the "air" range). I like the KM184, especially for acoustic guitars. I would also strongly consider the Beesnees LuLus. If I were in the market for sdcs I would try. The downside of the KM184 is it can be overly bright. The KM184 has this nice thick mid. i didnt expect it to be any good. Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered. Milab pencil mics are really good, many people rate them above the KM84. I have owned both. I think you'll find that the mc930 will be more useful than the at4040. Josephson C42 is a great mic as a alternative to a neumann, Thank you guys, I prefer one good mike intead of two cheap. i have owned pairs of gefell m300s, dpa 4011s, schoeps cmc64s, km140s, km184s, beyer mc930s, and imo, the km184s are as musical as anythng i have used. Vintage km84s are way over priced!! I don't know if anybody mentionned the rode nt-5, they are cheapest copy of the km184, but I've compare the too, and they are very nice for the price. Close to a KM84. You need an account to post a reply. the mercenary audio km69 is supposed to replicate that sound. I love the AKG 451 that I have. Beyer MC930 for sure. TLM 103 The modern classic for vocals, spoken word, and more. btw, in the gear shootout forum is this thread: Buy km 184 and dont look back . Beyer MC930s are much better. LOOOVE my new Beyer MC930's (clip included)! the freq. the older km84s are also very nice but have been pretty much priced out of all reasonableness - expect to pay $2500-3000 for a nice pair of km84s - and there are better mics out there for that kind of money (again, IMO). I love the AKG 451 that I have. Our bestseller. It's a great little mic. The closest thing to a KM184 would be a broken mic. Thank you guys, it seems to be very good the Beyer MC 930. Very good, regardless of (low) price. Ribbons really work when you want a very natural tone and can take eq very nicely. Check out Line Audio CM3. ...there is this strange "rule of thumb" around these parts that...the old product is *always* better than the new... More Mic Madness - cHapTeR 4 - What's up with KM84's? They appear to be a good KM84 clone. Nice, bright and slightly round. It's not that the 184 is a horrible mic. Hey there! The MC930 has a different magic--more open, less in the mid, more in the lows and highs. I posted clips above of 84's, 184's, modded 184's and modded 012's if anyone actually cares to listen instead of pontificate. Consider a Gefell MV692 with the M70 capsule. Remote Possibilities in Location Recording & Production, https://www.gearslutz.com/board/3657092-post1.html, Pictures Of Mic'ed Up Drum Kits In The Studio, Any new mic sounding similar to vintage km84, Already have an account? they can be a tad bright for some sources when used close, but are excellent on acoustic guitar, piano, and many other acoustic instruments, and they make a very nice main ORTF pair for small ensemble recording. The MC 930 is not bright, but brilliant (i.e. and record an acoustic guitar in stereo and it's amazing. Of the mics just mentioned, you could make a good case for either the KM184 or MC930 but if budget comes into play, there's no need to anguish yourself further. Maybe have a look at some ribbons. The Josephson C42 is nice but doesn't have the velvety texture of the KM184. Also look into the Gefell M300, pretty much the same design. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. lift is higher up; not in the "punch" range but in the "air" range). Rode NT55; what makes this mic special is you can use omni or card. Všechny informace o produktu NEUMANN KM184 Stereo, porovnání cen z internetových obchodů, hodnocení a recenze NEUMANN KM184 Stereo. The downside of the KM184 is it can be overly bright. I feel the mids are very clear and defined, the top can be a bright on a few sources, but its a great work horse mic for me. I would definately consider Gefell's before the 184's. It's a fine, utilitarian SDC, albeit with a tendency towards stridency in the upper register if not placed with care. i used the m audio pulsar II recently, and was impressed actually. 14th June 2010 | … here is a quite beautiful sampling of the MC930. This way you might save yourself a lot of pesetas. The 692/M70 combo is sweet and flexable. the freq. Nicer top end, and generally, then the KM184. but a great bread and butter utility. Help: cheap alternative at Neumann KM184. KM 184 Authentic, vibrant, transparent: The … The Neumann Series 180 consists of three members with different pickup patterns: KM 183 (omni), KM 184 (cardioid), and KM 185 (hypercardioid), thus covering the majority of stage and studio applications. The omni gives more of a live sound...open and detailed. Superb mic for the money. KMS 104/ 104 Plus/ 105 Studio sound on stage. I read on here that Bruce Swedien used it for multiple applications. i don't find it too bright at all, at least not on my acoustic. Click here to login, The ability to reply to and create new discussions, Access to members-only giveaways & competitions, Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As, Access to members-only sub forum discussions, Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio, Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free. Stage feeling in the studio. Hey there! Haven't ever used the Cascade Fathead ribbons (hard to get in UK) but they have got some very good reviews and are dirt cheap (about $175 each). It's never made much sense to me, particularly in recording popular music, because I feel the 184 is a real workhorse. a pair of used km84s is in the same price range and compared to the 184 actually sounds decent. Neumann KM184, Charter Oak M900, Josephson c42, AKG c 391 b, Audio-Technica 4021, Rode NTS, Audio-Technica 4051, DPA 4011, AKG c 1000 s, Audio-Technica ATM450, Peluso CEMC6, Schoeps CMC64 Shure SM81 Share Reply Quote. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. Even on vocals. Just that the 84 is so great.....and it's hard to compete. The MC930 has a different magic--more open, less in the mid, more in the lows and highs. A quick search on KM 184 will reveal the mic to be historically unpopular on Gearslutz. Of the mics I have ready access to: the NT5 is decent but can be thin and sterile. Classical guitars can sound absolutely beautiful with ribbons if the guitar itself sounds nice along with the room. An amazing microphone, depth and vibe, great on acoustic guitar. Then I'll record with Sennheiser MKH8040, AT4033 and CM3. Just read up on it and you'll see what i mean. I feel the mids are very clear and defined, the top can be a bright on a few sources, but its a great work horse mic for me. The 4051a is much higher end than a 4040, and still not that expensive.